It is said that John Williams born 1792 in Logan Kentucky and his wife Mary "Polly" Garrett are the parents of Curtis Williams born 1832 in Illinois. From the 1850 census of Canaan, Gasconade Co Missouri it would appear to be so, as a Curtis Williams born 1832 Illinois appears there with John and Polly. Their son Rolly (sounds the same as Rawleigh) is visiting with relatives in White Co IL during the 1850 but is home again in 1860 census.
John Williams' father Aaron Williams died 18 December 1838 in White Co Illinois. His children's birth were written in a Bible. I dont have this Bible and I dont know who has it. He married Tabitha Stark. Our John Williams b 1792 names his 3 of his children Aaron, Tabitha and Roley after his brothers and sister. His father and mother were Thomas Williams and Christiana Hightower. His grandfather was Lunenburg VA Rawleigh/Raleigh Williams. Which sounds a lot like Rolly Williams.
Thomas Williams was a Baptist minister in Warren Co, KY along with John Hightower. Because John Hightowers wife is Christiana, it is assumed John & Christiana Hightower are inlaws of Thomas Williams. Thomas WILLIAMS, Curtis WILLIAMS, Aaron BURLESON and John HIGHTOWER lived in GA 1780. Known children of Thomas and Christiana are:
Thomas WILLIAMS b: in NORTH CAROLINA may have died Gallatin Co, IL
Curtis WILLIAMS died in GA or SC
Rowland WILLIAMS on 27 Jan 1813 Rowland Williams mentioned living on middle fork of Drakes Creek--Warren Co, KY
Aaron WILLIAMS b: ABT 1770 in Of NC (Thomas, Aaron and F. Williams-might be same as F.Samuel Wms- were early in IL deed in Warren Co, KY from Grace Barbery to Aaron Williams date 29 Nov 1810 for $100 160 acres in Blackberry Grove no witnesses)
Samuel WILLIAMS died in Henderson Co KY
James WILLIAMS married Nancy West, was 1794 in SC, age 60-70 1830 census Christian Co, KY lots of children living at home-may have a 2nd wife
1860: Canaan, Gasconade, Missouri
Post Office: Owensville
Name Age
John Williams 65 KY
Mary Williams 56 KY
Telitha Williams 21 IN married 1863 to Martin Traister- in 1880 Miller, Maries, Missouri
Rolla Williams 18 IN
1850: Canaan, Gasconade, Missouri
Family Number: 26
Name Age
Green Williams 25 IN (full name is Green Berry Williams- in 1880 he says his parents were born in KY)
Polly Williams 18 TN
John Williams 0 MO
Family Number: 26
Name Age
Green Williams 25 IN (full name is Green Berry Williams- in 1880 he says his parents were born in KY)
Polly Williams 18 TN
John Williams 0 MO
1850: Canaan, Gasconade, Missouri
Family Number: 55
Name Age
John Williams 58 Kentucky
Polly Williams 54 Kentucky
Curtis Williams 18 IL
Elizabeth Williams 16
Delitha Williams 14 -Telitha
Aaron Williams 12
Polly Williams 10
Thomas Williams was a Baptist minister in Warren Co, KY along with John Hightower. Because John Hightowers wife is Christiana, it is assumed John & Christiana Hightower are inlaws of Thomas Williams. Thomas WILLIAMS, Curtis WILLIAMS, Aaron BURLESON and John HIGHTOWER lived in GA 1780. Known children of Thomas and Christiana are:
Thomas WILLIAMS b: in NORTH CAROLINA may have died Gallatin Co, IL
Curtis WILLIAMS died in GA or SC
Rowland WILLIAMS on 27 Jan 1813 Rowland Williams mentioned living on middle fork of Drakes Creek--Warren Co, KY
Aaron WILLIAMS b: ABT 1770 in Of NC (Thomas, Aaron and F. Williams-might be same as F.Samuel Wms- were early in IL deed in Warren Co, KY from Grace Barbery to Aaron Williams date 29 Nov 1810 for $100 160 acres in Blackberry Grove no witnesses)
Samuel WILLIAMS died in Henderson Co KY
James WILLIAMS married Nancy West, was 1794 in SC, age 60-70 1830 census Christian Co, KY lots of children living at home-may have a 2nd wife
Children
Thomas WILLIAMS b: 6 FEB 1791 in Sumner Co,TN (died 1842 White, IL, Married: 15 Nov 1836 in White Co, IL to Martha D. Putney- 2nd wife?)
John WILLIAMS b: 11 SEP 1792 in Logan Co,KY
Roland WILLIAMS b: 30 JUN 1795 in Logan Co,KY (died 1846 in White Co., IL)
Aaron WILLIAMS b: 12 AUG 1796 in Hawthorne Twp,White,IL (died 17 Nov 1852 - Empire Twp, McLean, Illinois, Married: 24 Sep 1817 in White Co, IL to Mary "Polly" Hanna)
Stark WILLIAMS b: 22 APR 1797 in Warren Co,KY (may have died early)
Levi WILLIAMS b: 14 MAR 1799 in Logan Co,KY (Married: 19 Feb 1820 in White Co, IL to Catherine McFaddin, A Levi married Mary Ann Brent on 18 Sep 1834 in White Co, ILL)
Joseph WILLIAMS b: 18 MAY 1801 in Warren Co,KY (died 1836 in White Co IL Married: 12 Mar 1823 in White Co, IL to Elizabeth Douthart)
Larkin WILLIAMS b: 17 APR 1803 in Warren Co,KY (died 9 Nov 1853 in , White, IL)
Mary Ann "Polly" WILLIAMS b: 25 FEB 1805 in Warren Co,KY (Married: 23 Aug 1820 in , White, IL to Abraham G. Buckles))
Volly WILLIAMS b: 17 DEC 1807 in Warren Co,KY (died 1838 Married: 12 Feb 1823 in White Co, IL to Wyatt McFaddin)
Nicholas Lazarus (Lazarus Nicholas) WILLIAMS b: 4 DEC 1809 in Gallatin Co,IL (died 1838 Married: 22 Dec 1834 in White Co, IL to Polly Randolph)
Tabitha WILLIAMS b: 28 NOV 1811 in Gallatin Co,IL (Married: 30 Oct 1833 in White Co, IL to Wesley Hanna who married again 10 Oct 1950 to Mrs Nancy J. Campbell in Rock Island Co IL)
William Stark WILLIAMS b: 29 AUG 1813 in Gallatin Co,IL (married Mary Graham, had a child America, he was a miller, moved to Warren Co IL)
Andrew Jackson WILLIAMS b: 11 SEP 1815 in White Co,IL (married Elizabeth Henry)
James Hanna WILLIAMS b: 1 APR 1818 in White Co,IL (Married: 3 Aug 1836 in White Co, IL to Nancy Jane Burrell) See below:
1850: District 13, White, Illinois
Family Number: 204
Name Age
James Williams 30
Nancy J Williams 28
Martin V Williams 10
John Williams 6
Aaron Williams 4
Hannah Burnel 55
Lowry Hary 14
1850: District 13, White, Illinois
Family Number: 128
Name Age
Roley Williams 22
Hannah B Williams 24
Nathaniel Winkler 11
1850: District 13, White, Illinois
Family Number: 200
Name Age
Daniel Williams 27
Hester A Williams 25
Charles Williams 1
1850: District 13, White, Illinois
Family Number: 203
Name Age
William Williams 22
Isabella Williams 19
Mary Williams 0
1850: District 13, White, Illinois
Family Number: 204
Name Age
James Williams 30
Nancy J Williams 28 Nacy Jane Burnell
Martin V Williams 10
John Williams 6
Aaron Williams 4
Hannah Burnel 55
Lowry Hary 14
1850: District 13, White, Illinois
Family Number: 205
Name Age
Jeremiah Williams 22
Elizabeth A Williams 20
Henry Grimes 56
1850: District 13, White, Illinois
Family Number: 207
Name Age
Larkin Williams 47 (John's brother -he died 3 years later)
Hester Williams 40
Levi Williams 20
Lucinda Williams 16
Mary Williams 12
Lobitha Williams 10
Julia A Williams 9
Elizabeth Williams 7
Aaron Williams 9
1850: District 13, White, Illinois
Family Number: 209
Name Age
Norman Williams 25
Jehue Williams 1
William Williams 18
Mary A Williams 15
Nathaniel Blackford 20
Mary Blackford 17
Margt Blackford 0 3/12
Tobitha Williams 10
1850: District 13, White, Illinois
Family Number: 221
Name Age
Henry S Stanly 23
Mary Stanly 27
Bedford Stanly 2
Roley Williams 9 (belongs to John Willliams)
Frances Phillips 12
1850: District 13, White, Illinois
Family Number: 223
Name Age
Samuel Williams 20
Elizabeth Williams 19
John Williams 18
Nancy Williams 24
Thomas Simpson Williams may be the son of James Williams, son of Thomas Williams and Christiana Hightower. james Williams is age 60-70 1830 census Christian Co, KY lots of children living at home-may have a 2nd wife.
1850: District 13, White, Illinois
Family Number: 204
Name Age
James Williams 30
Nancy J Williams 28
Martin V Williams 10
John Williams 6
Aaron Williams 4
Hannah Burnel 55
Lowry Hary 14
1850: District 13, White, Illinois
Family Number: 128
Name Age
Roley Williams 22
Hannah B Williams 24
Nathaniel Winkler 11
1850: District 13, White, Illinois
Family Number: 200
Name Age
Daniel Williams 27
Hester A Williams 25
Charles Williams 1
1850: District 13, White, Illinois
Family Number: 203
Name Age
William Williams 22
Isabella Williams 19
Mary Williams 0
1850: District 13, White, Illinois
Family Number: 204
Name Age
James Williams 30
Nancy J Williams 28 Nacy Jane Burnell
Martin V Williams 10
John Williams 6
Aaron Williams 4
Hannah Burnel 55
Lowry Hary 14
1850: District 13, White, Illinois
Family Number: 205
Name Age
Jeremiah Williams 22
Elizabeth A Williams 20
Henry Grimes 56
1850: District 13, White, Illinois
Family Number: 207
Name Age
Larkin Williams 47 (John's brother -he died 3 years later)
Hester Williams 40
Levi Williams 20
Lucinda Williams 16
Mary Williams 12
Lobitha Williams 10
Julia A Williams 9
Elizabeth Williams 7
Aaron Williams 9
1850: District 13, White, Illinois
Family Number: 209
Name Age
Norman Williams 25
Jehue Williams 1
William Williams 18
Mary A Williams 15
Nathaniel Blackford 20
Mary Blackford 17
Margt Blackford 0 3/12
Tobitha Williams 10
1850: District 13, White, Illinois
Family Number: 221
Name Age
Henry S Stanly 23
Mary Stanly 27
Bedford Stanly 2
Roley Williams 9 (belongs to John Willliams)
Frances Phillips 12
1850: District 13, White, Illinois
Family Number: 223
Name Age
Samuel Williams 20
Elizabeth Williams 19
John Williams 18
Nancy Williams 24
Thomas Simpson Williams may be the son of James Williams, son of Thomas Williams and Christiana Hightower. james Williams is age 60-70 1830 census Christian Co, KY lots of children living at home-may have a 2nd wife.
Thomas Simpson Williams may be the son of James Williams?
ReplyDeleteJames Williams and Nancy West did not have a son named Thomas Simpson Williams. James and Nancy's children were:
Jesse Lewis Williams 1794 – 1865
Mary Rose "Polly" Williams 1796 – 1852
Stephen Williams 1798 – 1884
Amos Williams 1801 – 1876
Nancy Williams 1803 –
Melinda Williams 1805 – 1842
James Williams Jr. 1806 – 1850
Iva Williams 1810 – 1895 (married Edmond Meacham)
Alvin Williams 1813 –
Elizabeth "Betsy" Williams 1814 – 1871
Warren R. Williams 1815 – 1875
Louisa Williams 1819 – 1876 (my great-great grandmother that married Charles Mann)
James married second to Susannah Grissam
their children were:
Marrell Washington Williams 1829 – 1890
Selina A. Williams 1831 – 1880
James C. "King" Williams 1836 – 1911
I believe James Williams parents were Jenkins Williams and Uriah Marks. Thank You, Patsy Mann Holtz
You may have already discovered your error concerning the 1850 White Co IL census entry for Roley Williams, age 9. He was indeed the son of a John Williams -- but that John Williams died in Aug 1845 (see the Illinois Probate Records database at familysearch.org for White County Probate Journal A, page 145; Journal C, pp 62-64; and Journal D, page 203). The son Roley is enumerated with his mother and her 2nd husband Henry S. Stanly (or Stanley) in 1850. Mary Tidwell married John Williams 24 Dec 1839 in White Co IL, and was married to Henry S. Stanley 28 Mar 1847, also in White County. The Stanley family had moved on to Montgomery Co IL by 1860, and "Riley" Williams is also there, listed as a 19-year-old farm laborer in the household of John D. Cass. He is listed in the 1863 Civil War Draft Registrations as a school teacher in Montgomery Co IL, and appears in the 1870 Montgomery Co IL census as "Rolla" Williams with his half-brother Bedford Stanley. Roley Williams died 10 Sep 1871 in Montgomery Co IL. See archive.org for a biography of Mary Tidwell Williams Stanley on pages 5 & 6 of "Semi-centenarians of Butler Grove Township, Montgomery Co. Ill.," by Rev. T. E. Spilman. It includes details about her marriages, as well as birth and death info for her children.
ReplyDeleteWhile researching this Roley who lived with the Stanleys, I also discovered a "Hannah B. Tidwell" b. abt. 1827 in IL, married Roley Williams, b. abt. 1826 in Illinois -- married in 1844 in White, IL. Children Albert, 1848, IL; Mary E. 1850, IL; Susan A. 1852, IL, Lucinda 1858, IL; and John F. 1861, IL. It's tempting to think Hannah and Mary were sisters who married Williams brothers -- but no proof of anything yet and still researching, but very interesting!
DeleteI'm also researching this family -- I did a search on Ancestry.com of all Williams's b. Indiana and living in Canaan, Gasconade, MO in 1850. The list comes up as Green Williams, b. abt. 1825 Indiana, Davis Williams, b. abt. 1826 Indiana, Cynthia Williams (Davis' wife) b. abt. 1828, Indiana, JOHN WILLIAMS, b. abt. 1828, Indiana (MY ANCESTOR - married Harriet Spaulding), Elizabeth Williams, b. abt. 1834, Indiana, Delitha Williams, b. abt. 1836, Indiana, Aaron Williams, b. abt. 1838, Indiana and Polly Williams, b. abt. 1840 Indiana. I believe they are all John Sr. & Mary Polly's children. They are all living near or with each other in the 1850 Canaan census. I've traced all their descendants, and my Ancestor John Williams (Jr.) and his descendants remained close to his brothers Green Berry, Curtis, and Aaron's descendants through the 1920s in Vinita, Indian Territory, OK and Creek County, Oklahoma. I had also reached the same conclusion about Roley being in Illinois as Linda Deppner above - this Roley appears to be a different Roley, but I have no explanation as to where our Roley was in the 1850 Canaan census. I can send you a link to my tree on Ancestry -- I also am keeping a Gallery story of all my findings as to how John Jr., Curtis, Aaron & Green Berry's children remained in contact, living near or with each other, for so many years. I can send you a link to my tree on Ancestry. I'm attempting to a "source based only" tree -- so all the information I have found is documented.
ReplyDeleteForgot to mention, John (Jr) also named his son Roley, Roley was my great-grandfather.
ReplyDeleteIf anyone wants to see my tree mentioned above, it's at Ancestry.com -- "Williams Family Tree - mirror tree -- SOURCE BASED ONLY - DNA connected" If you search for the above mentioned people, it should pop up in the choices under family trees.
ReplyDeleteI investigated Aaron Williams who married Tabitha Stark on Ancestry.com and found his will, probate date 28 Aug. 1837, in which he mentions ALL of his children listed above, with the notable exception of John Williams, b. 1792 in Kentucky. The only reason John wouldn't be listed on the will was if he died without issue before Aaron's will was made, or if he never existed. Other trees on Ancestry indicate that Aaron did have a son named John, b. 1792 in Kentucky, who died in 1813. Our John was still alive and living in Canaan, Gasconade County, Missouri in 1860. If he was Aaron's son, he would have been mentioned in his will, even if only to exclude him. That said, the first names of Aaron's children, and of his father Thomas Williams' children are so similar to our John's children's names that it's worth investigating if there may be a connection with that family somewhere.
ReplyDeleteJohn Williams & Polly mentioned above appear to actually be John Williams and Mary Hinton -- John Williams was the son of Joseph Williams & Sarah Musick.
ReplyDeletePer the book "Genealogy of the Lewis Family in America," by William Terrell Lewis (pages 191 - 193), Joseph & Sarah Musick Williams had the following children: Micajah, James, Rev. Lewis, William Sherley, John Williams, Mary (who married Francis Mattocks), Peter, Arabella (who married William Vaughn), Benjamin & Olive (who married Thomas Winn).
According to the book "History of Maries County, Missouri," by Everett King, which lists NO SOURCES -- it appears to be an "oral family history" -- John Williams & Mary Hinton lived in Franklin County, Missouri in 1850 and Miller, Maries County, Missouri in 1860 -- their children were Micajah, Deliliah, William, Lewis, Mary & John J.
Joseph Williams & Sarah Musick's son John Williams and his wife Polly Hinton actually appear to be living in Canaan, Gasconade County, Missouri in 1850 & 1860 (page 7 of the 1850 census). All the known surviving children of Joseph Williams & Sarah Musick are also living in Canaan in 1850 & 1860. On the 1850 census, John's sister Mary Williams Mattocks is widowed and living two doors up from John & Polly (with other known family members in between them). His sister Arabella Williams Vaughn is on page 6 of the census, and the widower of his sister Olive Williams (Thomas Winn) is also on page 6 of 1850 Canaan, Gasconade County, Missouri census. Also, Mary Hinton's brother, David Hinton, her sister, Winnie Brock, and mother Elizabeth Hinton are on page 9 of the 1850 Canaan, Gasconade County, Missouri census. Also, William Cooper, the widower of Mary Sarah Williams, daughter of Lewis Williams is on page 2 of the 1850 census. Many other family members also living in Canaan, Gasconade County, Missouri in 1850 and later censuses, all around and sometimes next door to John Williams & Polly.
The book "Family Maps of Gasconade County, Missouri," by Gregory A. Boyd, J.D., pages 178-179, shows patents that were issued to John Williams, Francis Mattocks (husband of John's sister, Mary Williams Mattocks), William Vaughn (husband of Arabella Williams Vaughn), Thomas Winn (husband of John's sister Olive Williams Winn), William C. Cooper (husband of Mary Sarah Williams, daughter of Lewis Williams), Lewis Williams & Benjamin F. Williams -- all very close to each other -- and backed up by the families listed on the 1850 Canaan, Gasconade County, Missouri census. (Patent Map Group 14, Township 42-N, Range 5-W (5th PM)).
John Williams & Polly Hinton had the following children (all living in Canaan, Gasconade County, Missouri in 1850): Green Berry, Davis, John Williams (Jr.), Curtis Williams, Elizabeth Williams, Telitha Williams, Mary Williams, Rolla Williams, and Aaron Williams, all b. Indiana, except Curtis.
There are MANY sources that appear to indicate that Joseph Williams & Sarah Musick's son John Williams & his wife Polly Hiton were living in Canaan, Gasconade County, Missouri and their son was NOT the John Williams & Mary living in Franklin County, Missouri in 1850 and Miller, Maries County, Missouri in 1860, as per the book "History of Maries County, Missouri," by Everett King. There appear to be NO close family members of John Williams or Mary Hinton living near the John Williams & Mary Hinton listed above in Franklin County, Missouri, or Miller, Maries County, Missouri.
See story and all sources & supporting evidence at: https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/120887635/person/332003520210/media/5b955ba1-5ca0-4b61-b4ca-44d3230a1378?_phsrc=wFY23553&usePUBJs=true
Could you post a link to your William's Family Tree? I could not locate it on Ancestry. Thanks!
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